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    Post by Windy Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:30 am

    From a spyshot article on the Aussie Holden Cruze:

    A wholly turbocharged range is likely, as GM Powertrain continues to roll out its new breed of smaller-capacity, forced-induction motors, the range of which is tagged Small Gasoline Engine (SGE). The breed of three- and four-cylinder engines have been engineered by GM’s European arm Opel in partnership with the Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) which will use the engine for its reborn MG brand.

    The engines will have a swept capacity between 1.0- and 1.5-litres, and will debut in the Opel Adam next year. The range of new direct-injection, lightweight, and modular engines is also scheduled in the 2014 Barina/Sonic and 2015 MG3 before expanding its range with larger-capacity versions in this new Cruze one year later.
    Source: http://www.caradvice.com.au/213867/2016-holden-cruze-next-generation-aussie-spied/

    SAIC is scheduled to open a new factory alongside the NLE engine plant in Lingang Shanghai for production of this engine in June 2015 so we should expect the direct injection turbo MG3 in the early autumn 2015.
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    Post by Roverman Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:55 am

    Needs to be out much sooner than that, not a good co-op if GM gets the preference of launch.
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    Post by snifferdog1 Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:56 pm

    Why does GM get preference? Would that be something thats written into the deal? Have they injected the most cash?
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    Post by Windy Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:32 am

    snifferdog1 wrote:Why does GM get preference? Would that be something thats written into the deal? Have they injected the most cash?
    SAIC don't appear to need this engine at the moment, introducing it in China makes no sense when the competition are still selling cheap non-direct injection engines and in Europe they have yet to launch the cheaper versions so I guess the date just fits in with their current plans for European expansion.

    GM desperately need the engine to be competitive in Europe with the Adam which presumably they want to sell in Qashqai numbers in the first year!

    It is also taking SAIC a bit of time to build a brand new factory for it on a greenfield site while I guess GM are using an existing factory.
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    Post by Roverman Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:35 am

    Maybe so but this engine IS essential to the success of the 3 in the UK.


    We don't want a repeat of the 6's shortfalls, eg. High Co2, poor fuel consumption.
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    Post by Roverman Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:38 am

    snifferdog1 wrote:Why does GM get preference? Would that be something thats written into the deal? Have they injected the most cash?

    It wouldn't surprise me if SAIC have stumped the most money into the project.



    SAIC really was a lifeline to GM during recent times.
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    Post by Windy Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:44 pm

    Roverman wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if SAIC have stumped the most money into the project.


    SAIC really was a lifeline to GM during recent times.
    They did allow the project to go ahead, GM was bankrupt at the time it started and SAIC were negotiating from a position of strength but there is no way of knowing what the arrangement was.
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    Post by patpending Mon May 13, 2013 1:07 am

    Ukrainian website autoconsulting.ua reports:

    http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http://www.autoconsulting.com.ua/article.php%3Fsid%3D27318

    MG is developing a 1.0-liter engine with 125 hp
    Car Market | Posted - 04/29/2013 17:24:09 (Read 1568 times)
    Small Gasoline Engine (SGE)  80dd783234c5a9987137254bdc1a4British-Chinese company MG intends to release a three-cylinder petrol engine volume of one liter. Power unit is not specified, but it must become a competitor turbo Ford with a similar number of cylinders and the same volume. The return of the American unit makes 125 horsepower. This is with reference to the representative of MG Paul McNamara reports Autocar.
    "Our benchmark is the liter Ford EcoBoost. "Ford" first to market with a similar unit. Our task is to be competitive and to demonstrate the best possible result, "- said McNamara.

    The family of powertrains MG small volume makes its debut in the Chinese market next year, while European sales of cars with such engines will start a year later. Gamma also will include 1.4 and 1.5 engines, which will appear on hatchbacks MG3 and MG5, and MG6 flagship production version of the crossover MG CS, which is a prototype made its debut at the Shanghai Motor Show.

    McNamara also said that the company is developing a dual clutch transmission - in versions with both "dry" and a "wet" clutch. In the first case the box will be designed for a maximum torque of 223 Nm, the second - to 360 Nm. Last appears on the MG models until 2015, the first as early as next year.
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    Post by Windy Mon May 13, 2013 2:17 am

    I wonder what they are going to put in the E50, a 3 cylinder would make more sense than the big 1.5 NSE but it's supposed to be out late this year and 125 bhp might be a bit much for the electric transmission as well as the suspension and small wheels!
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    Post by Windy Tue May 21, 2013 4:31 am


    Jiang Jun: Roewe, MG will accelerate product launch



    Jiang Jun, deputy general manager of SAIC's passenger car company, recently revealed to the media, SAIC own brand of powertrain technology has been raised to a new stage that can be comparable with the joint venture brands, SAIC will be able in the future to achieve its Roewe two years of the MG brand a facelift , four years a new generation of products on the rhythm.

    Once listed on the first-generation Roewe 550 monthly sales of more than ten thousand, but later due to slower replacement fell down, the brand development process. Jiang Jun, bluntly, the market competition is very cruel, if a few years there will be no impact on the market a new product, sales will be restricted.

    Comments: with higher technological content, a stronger technical level, SAIC models gain a good market reputation. If the pace of new product launch acceleration, will undoubtedly further enhance the automobile market in the Chinese power.
    Source: http://auto.gasgoo.com/News/2013/05/21074805485211.shtml
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    Post by patpending Tue May 21, 2013 8:18 am

    Windy wrote:

    <h2>Jiang Jun: Roewe, MG will accelerate product launch</h2>

    Jiang Jun, deputy general manager of SAIC's passenger car company, recently revealed to the media, SAIC own brand of powertrain technology has been raised to a new stage that can be comparable with the joint venture brands, SAIC will be able in the future to achieve its Roewe two years of the MG brand a facelift , four years a new generation of products on the rhythm.

    Once listed on the first-generation Roewe 550 monthly sales of more than ten thousand, but later due to slower replacement fell down, the brand development process. Jiang Jun, bluntly, the market competition is very cruel, if a few years there will be no impact on the market a new product, sales will be restricted.

    Comments: with higher technological content, a stronger technical level, SAIC models gain a good market reputation. If the pace of new product launch acceleration, will undoubtedly further enhance the automobile market in the Chinese power.
    Source: http://auto.gasgoo.com/News/2013/05/21074805485211.shtml

    And we would just like even to see the car within three years! Wink "Must speed up"...

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