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    Post by Windy Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:28 am

    The MG website for Belarus has gone live: http://mgcars.by/

    Prices for the MG range are:
    MG 750 from 24900$ to 28900$
    MG 550 from 17900$ to 24350$
    MG TF from 24900$

    Translated from the website:

    News: The new MG is already in Belarus!

    Some brands are very old and quickly forgotten. Other escape, but remain in our memory, thanks to their strong history. And some are returned to our lives, as old friends, as has the legendary British mark MG.

    Most people remember MG as the most popular British sports cars. Many believe that the MG TF Roadster is more likely to arouse an emotion and pleasure of driving for their drivers than any other sports cars brand in Britain.

    MG cars are represented today in Belarus by the company Автостиль, official dealer of British brand, offers three models, the new sedan MG 550 created on a new concept of five digital D5 Digi Next. The respectable MG 750 and the mid-engined roadster MG TF.
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    Post by patpending Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:19 pm

    Автостиль = Autostyle?

    I'm reminded of the song

    "I believe pigs and even DC10s can fly
    I believe the devil is ready to repent
    But I can't believe Ronald Reagan is President"...

    Belarus??? Where on earth did THAT come from? Laughing
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    Post by Windy Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:05 pm

    patpending wrote:Автостиль = Autostyle?

    I'm reminded of the song

    "I believe pigs and even DC10s can fly
    I believe the devil is ready to repent
    But I can't believe Ronald Reagan is President"...

    Belarus??? Where on earth did THAT come from? Laughing

    Appears to be from "Not the Nine O'Clock News" - I had to look that one up!
    And you appear to have mixed the lines of the last two verses into one Wink

    "I believe that Colonel Sanders can fry
    and that pigs and even DC-10s can fly
    I'm prepared to believe that things go better with Coke
    And that the Ayatollah tells a darned good knock knock joke

    I believe some folk can hear what Bugs Bunny's sayin’,
    And that Salt Lake City's a real nice place to stay in.
    I believe that JR really loves Sue Ellen
    I believe that things sound better when you're yellin'
    And I believe that the Devil is ready to repent
    But I can't believe Ronald Reagan is President.
    "


    It may be a little difficult to find sales figures for Belarus when they start...
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    Post by patpending Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:00 am

    Thanks for the quote, Windy.

    I was thinking if you had set me off at the time of the original Chinese News Poll to invent two random countries that would see the return of MG, I could hardly have been "randomer" than Chile* and Belarus. South America and ex-USSR is a great impossible idea - I think I might have said Paraguay and Tadjikistan.

    * I hadn't realised the historical significance of Chile - but Belarus??? affraid Wink

    Like when Reginald Perrin drew a handbag-shaped test zone for Sunshine Desserts' mango and lychee ripple in Schleswig-Holstein, including bits of sea.

    But real life(!)

    I wonder what the connection is? Do the importers travel round China looking for deals and both S.K. Berger and Autostyle play golf/go to the sauna/drink Tsing Tao with SAIC exporters? If so, we could see who else engages in the activity and identify some more countries...Albanians like a deal, Kenya is up-and-coming (but RHD) and what about North Korea in the event of reunification?

    - actually, we know the Chinese are making all sorts of investment-for-raw-materials deals with African countries...but South Africa and Nigeria are RHD too...

    At this rate, there will be letters printed in MG Enthusiast written by my fictional self based on real-life experience! Doh
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    Post by Mirtininkas Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:45 am

    MG 350 review in Belarus:
    http://www.abw.by/number/see_note/12446/

    In my opinion Roewe 350 was just an ugly car but when i saw the first photo i changed my opinion. It looks really nice, and it's bigger then i thought!
    Journalist didn't like only one thing - price.

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    Post by Windy Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:18 pm

    Mirtininkas wrote:MG 350 review in Belarus:
    http://www.abw.by/number/see_note/12446/

    In my opinion Roewe 350 was just an ugly car but when i saw the first photo i changed my opinion. It looks really nice, and it's bigger then i thought!
    Journalist didn't like only one thing - price.


    How he got it to do 0-60 in 9 seconds in those conditions I fail to understand:

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    But he obviously enjoyed it Very Happy

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    Post by Windy Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:12 pm

    Just read their MG6 review: http://www.abw.by/news/142746/
    and MG550 review: http://www.abw.by/number/see_note/5519/

    Both entertaining reads Smile
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    Post by patpending Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:15 am

    patpending wrote:what about North Korea in the event of reunification?


    I was inventing the stupidest place I could think of - but there is an importer now!

    ...but South Africa and Nigeria are RHD too...

    Nigeria has been LHD since about 1972 as I now know.
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    Post by Mirtininkas Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:23 pm

    On May dealer introduced two new models in Belarus - MG3 Xcross and MG5:
    http://auto.onliner.by/2013/05/17/mg-10
    Engine 1.5, 106hp, Euro IV.

    At this moment dealer has:
    1 Xcross
    3 MG350 (7 on the way to Belarus)
    1 MG5 (1 on the way)
    1 used MG6 GT
    1 MG6 sedan.
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    Post by Windy Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:51 pm

    Nice interior in that XRoss Very Happy

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    Good to see it on sale outside China too.
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    Post by Mirtininkas Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:05 pm

    I see new positive things in Belarus!

    There are some activities in their website comparing with my post in 1st of July:
    Xcross - had 1 new. Now - 1 new and 15 on the way.
    MG350 - had 3 new, 7 on the way. Now - 6 new and 6 on the way.
    Other models numbers unchanged. All new cars will arrive in September. By the way, they have 4 MG350 in Vilnius, Lithuania... Will write an email, maybe it's possible to see 350 in flesh??
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    Post by patpending Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:16 pm

    Mirtininkas wrote:By the way, they have 4 MG350 in Vilnius, Lithuania... Will write an email, maybe it's possible to see 350 in flesh??
     Who have? IIRC Avtostil Minsk are a company based in Latvia*. Surely a 350 cannot be registered in one EU country without the others... though I read here that a handful (four 750s?) were registered in Poland when imports began to Belarus...

    *EDIT the importer Greenback is actually Lithuanian, my mistake.


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    Post by Mirtininkas Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:58 pm

    Haven't heard about MG750 in Poland... Is there any info?

    http://mgcars.by/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=137&Itemid=430
    В ПУТИ (Вильнюс) - on the way (Vilnius).
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    Post by Mirtininkas Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:52 pm

    Just got an answer. Cars are in Vilnius, in custom's warehouse. Probably they came here from seaport Klaipeda, as Belarus doesn't have a coastline. They gave me contacts of person who can show me these cars, but i don't wan't to bother as it's in protected area.

    Patpending - it's possible to buy MG6 from Belarus dealer because it has EURO V standart. Other MG cars have only EURO IV.
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    Post by patpending Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:05 pm

    Mirtininkas wrote:Haven't heard about MG750 in Poland... Is there any info?

    http://mgcars.by/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=137&Itemid=430
    В ПУТИ (Вильнюс) - on the way (Vilnius).
     from here in 2011 - I have never seen anything else:

    http://www.mguk.org/t207-mg-heading-to-poland
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    Post by patpending Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:13 pm

    Mirtininkas wrote:Just got an answer. Cars are in Vilnius, in custom's warehouse. Probably they came here from seaport Klaipeda, as Belarus doesn't have a coastline. They gave me contacts of person who can show me these cars, but i don't wan't to bother as it's in protected area.

    Patpending - it's possible to buy MG6 from Belarus dealer because it has EURO V standart. Other MG cars have only EURO IV.
    Do you mean you could import a car and register it in Lithuania so long as it was at least Euro V?

    Lithuania is where the importer is based (my mistake). From Belarus you must go through Lithuania, Poland, Russia or the Ukraine to get to the sea.

    Klaipeda, otherwise known as Memel, has the reputation of being a lovely seaside town. Isn't there a hydrofoil boat from there to Vilnius?

    Greenbacks Baltic JSC
    Contact: Leonid Rozum
    Telephone: +370 655 944 78
    Fax: +370 527 319 57
    Email:  l.rozum@greenbacks.lt
    Web site: http://www.mgmotor.by
    Address: 1 V. Gerulaicio Str., office 1, Vilnius, Lithuania, LT-08200

    http://www.saicmg.com/english/guide/dealerquery.php#bom
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    Post by Mirtininkas Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:36 pm

    Oh i see, but i didn't found any info about used Roewe and MG in Poland... their forum is empty.

    For Belarus Lithuania is the easiest and shortest route from the sea. But everything depends from their president Lukashenko and his mood that day.

    Who can prevent me from registering new MG in Lithuania? I think it's only barrier of Euro standart for a new car (or maybe not?), and the other three factors - money, 10% customs tax and 21% VAT Smile

    I haven't heard about hydrofoil boat (called Raketa) at least 2 years, but they had a route from Kaunas to Nida in 2010 and 2011.
    http://www.15min.lt/images/photos/616179/big/1277983533raketa.jpg
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    Post by Windy Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:04 am

    Mirtininkas wrote:I haven't heard about hydrofoil boat (called Raketa) at least 2 years, but they had a route from Kaunas to Nida in 2010 and 2011.
    http://www.15min.lt/images/photos/616179/big/1277983533raketa.jpg
    Hydrofoils seem to have disappeared, I guess they were unreliable?

    Around the UK they have been replaced by seacat. A seacat at full speed is a remarkable sight when you realise that they can have a 200 cars onboard:

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    Post by Mirtininkas Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:18 am

    Windy, our "Raketa" (Rocket in english) was suitable only for tourism in the rivers, not for seas as a transport. I don't think it was unreliable, probably too small profit.
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    Post by Windy Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:45 am

    Mirtininkas wrote:Windy, our "Raketa" (Rocket in english) was suitable only for tourism in the rivers, not for seas as a transport. I don't think it was unreliable, probably too small profit.
    Ahh, for tourism, returning to a local river this year we have:

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    http://www.paddlesteamerkc.co.uk
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    Post by patpending Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:32 pm

    Here's a video of the jetfoil which used to travel from Belgium to Dover.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VeLinx126k
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    Post by Mirtininkas Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:11 am

    It seems that sales also moving fast forward in Belarus. ""11 MG3 Xross left"
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    Xross:
    1st of July - 1 Xross in stock.
    11th of August - 1 Xross in stock and 15 on the way.
    9th of October - 0 in stock and 17 Xross on the way and 6 already reserved! I wonder if these cars are same from August?  
    MG350:
    1st of July - 3 in stock and 7 on the way.
    11th of August - 6 in stock and 6 on the way.
    9th of October - 2 in stock and 4 on the way.
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    Post by patpending Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:36 pm

    Thanks Windy for pointing me to this XROSS test - I was reading the Russian and going "TESS-T dry-EEVE?

    http://auto.onliner.by/2013/10/11/mg-12/

    "MG3 - worth $450 a month?" Not sure what the $ are but if the downpayment is $5m it's not a cheap car Wink


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    British MG brand was once mainly engaged in the production of sports cars. The brand has a very amusing story in which there are ups and downs. In 1990 company "has gone from hand to hand."For a while it was under the control of the BMW. Since 2005 belongs to the Chinese brand Nanjing Automobile. Currently, under the name MG produced relatively inexpensive sedans and hatchbacks that are sold in our market. The most promising model we have is the MG 3 Xross, which is considered a direct competitor to Renault Sandero Stepway.
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    The car is available in the Chinese city of Nanjing and is a hatchback MG 3 terrain. The machine has increased by 6 mm ground clearance and a plastic protective body kit around the perimeter of the body. Xross model sold here in three trim levels: Standard ($ 16,990), Comfort ($ 18,390) and Deluxe ($ 19,290). For a car is available, only one engine - the 1.5-liter petrol "four" capacity of 109 liters. s.The basic version of the model is equipped with a 5-step "mechanics", the other two - a 5-ACT (to be exact - robotized gearbox).
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    To date, MG 3 Xross is the most affordable car this product in our market. Even before the advent of "live" copies it has become the best selling model in the MG Minsk. Many familiar with the car still on the "Motor Show 2013" and awaited the appearance of the price list. Note that the high demand for the hatchback (called crossover Xross still can not) is caused not so much by the low price, how much fun leasing offer for individuals from the dealer MG ($ 450 a month for three years, with the first installment of just over $ 5 million).
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    Bright appearance
    To test drive the car we were given a gray color as standard. Color - not the best, because he "eats" a gray lining on the bumpers and doors. In addition, this performance did not immediately notice that the pillars are painted in black. The most interesting MG 3 Xross looks in a bright (such as orange) color.
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    If the design of Renault Sandero Stepway is too boring for you and it's the only reason why you do not want to buy this model - you can pay attention to the 'British-Chinese' hatchback. It is evident that the creators focused on youth. The car has a large number of non-carrier of any function "cosmetics": bright gray lining "aluminum" on the front bumper, the simulation of additional air intakes, the similarity of the diffuser, gray inserts on the sides of the body. The machine resembles a bright toy.
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    With all of this body Xross really nice being protected from rocks and scratches - you can go into the woods without fear get the "abrasion". The manufacturer calls a crossover vehicle, although the MG clearance of 164 mm. This is 11 mm less than the "all-terrain» Sandero. When parking near the borders of some of the 11 mm can play a crucial role.
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    Actually looks like MG 3 Xross very well. Bold shapes elements of a body in conjunction with the "krossoverskimi" elements made of Youth hatchback car that will always stand out in the stream. In addition to the basic configuration Xross has 16-inch alloy wheels.
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    Simple beauty
    After such a bright exterior, the cabin also expect to see an extravagant motif with intricate corners.But here, on the contrary, all succinctly and even almost sternly. If it were not for the orange inserts on the doors and seats, interior could be called boring. Almost symmetrical center console "sheltered" audio system, air conditioning, air ducts and convenient cup holders with Box for mobile phones. Over the console - opens shelf where you can store CDs, documents, and other small things. Very convenient location! Classic glove box is also available.
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    The instrument panel - is very simple: the tachometer and speedometer. Located on the last level scale fuel. In the center - a tiny board computer display, able to display fuel consumption, mileage, range, and other information. The basic version has a button on the steering wheel-mounted audio controls. The very "bagel" has a glossy white box, which continues to "white theme", launched on the cassette recorder, door handles and air heating system.
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    MG 3 Xross audio system supports MP3 and running quite quickly. Among the shortcomings - too "cheap" sounding speakers, uncomfortable display on the cassette recorder and the "push-button" volume control instead of the usual "puck", which is more convenient difficult to imagine anything. But the temperature of the air as the air flow is adjusted just "hockey". Interestingly, the side air ducts can not be completely shut down - only to change the angle.
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    The front seats have a wide range of settings. Both seats are equipped with "lift", which is a rarity in the budget class. The steering column is adjustable only on the right (in a tiny range), with a roar falls to his knees as soon as you pull the lever. The car is equipped with full power, but on the mirror on the sun visor of the Chinese ... I'm sorry, British - saved. But information about placing a child seat is written in both English and Chinese.
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    On the second row of closely. The only area where I was at growth 186 cm have room - this is the height. The legs rest against the front seat. The three sit down will be difficult. In general, a typical small hatchback class. But back sofa folds and increases the tiny 256-liter boot to 938 liters (with Renault Sandero Stepway amount varies from 320 to 1200 liters). The fifth door opens high, but the opening is small. Polkabana have to carve into parts for pickup.
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    We must take a "robot"
    109-horsepower engine would be enough for measured driving around town, but do not try to impress the neighbors downstream sharp start with a traffic light. The motor is clearly not enough traction for active driving. Passport to disperse hundreds - 11.1 seconds (curb weight - 1165 kg).
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    Cope with a clutch pedal was not immediately apparent. Excessive speed and low information content several times almost became the reason that I stalled at a traffic light. The first two hours had all the time peregazovyvat at startup. Although the second day of the test drive, a few hundred kilometers, and used to budge on the machine as a "native." But in any case, I personally would like to draw attention to the version with automatic transmission (not yet available for a test drive).
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    I was surprised that the car is in very good turns. I was expecting big lists or inappropriate behavior at sharp evolutions. Nothing of the sort - the turns, "Hatch-crossover" is on rails. Suspension energy-intensive, but insulation will not allow you to comfortably move over long distances. And heard the sound of the engine, and the noise from the wheel arches.
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    Visibility - also not the best in class. For a wide front desk easily hide a pedestrian. That is why the creators of the mirrors moved closer to the door, freeing the small "windows" near the racks. Visibility back - great, including due to the large "mugs" mirrors. On the deep off-road climb we did not - and it is not for this MG 3 Xross created. Along a forest path or gravel road car "runs without stumbling."
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    Two days use the average fuel consumption of the car was 7.2 liters per 100 kilometers. The ratio of city / highway was about 40/60 percent, respectively.
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    The British car (that the British have developed a model!) Turned out good. Bright youth hatchback for people who want to stand out on the road. Prior sales Renault Sandero Stepway car hardly gets, but his client in our country finds indisputable. Is it worth the money base version of MG 3 Xross? Hard to say. Many people are deterred non-proliferation brand MG. Still, $ 17 million - a big sum for Belarusians, and give it away for the car, which is produced by the company, yet do not deserve no reputation in the market, not everyone is ready. Especially for that kind of money, you can choose "low-" some other, more eminent manufacturer. $ 17 million - still expensive. But $ 450 a month - not a bad option.
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    BODY
    TypeHatchback
    Number of doors5
    Number of seats5
    Length4079 mm
    Width1739 mm
    Height1528 mm
    Wheelbase2520 mm
    Trunk volume256/938 L
    ENGINE
    Petrol1,5 VCT
    Volume1498 cc. cm
    Power109 liters. s.
    At turns6000
    Torque135 Nm at 4500 rev / min
    The cylindersInline
    Number of cylinders4
    Valves per cylinder4
    FuelGasoline
    TRANSMISSION
    DriveFront
    Number of Gear (mechanical Gearbox)5
    Number of Gear (automatic Gearbox)5
    SUSPENSION
    In frontDamper strut
    BackBeam
    STEERING
    Power steeringPower
    PERFORMANCES
    Full speed182 km / h
    Acceleration time (0-100 km / h)11,1 c
    Fuel consumption in the combined cycle
    6.5 l / 100km
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    Post by Mirtininkas Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:15 pm

    patpending wrote:"MG3 - worth $450 a month?" Not sure what the $ are but if the downpayment is $5m it's not a cheap car Wink
    That's just a translator mistake. 450$ per month with first deposit of 5.000$, not million Smile Currency - US dollars.
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    Post by Morris Motors Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:59 am

    I still don't like these - the side profile is wrong - too tall; wheels too small etc. Plus the cladding is far less 'convincing' than on the original Streetwise etc.
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    Post by Windy Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:26 am

    Mirtininkas wrote:
    patpending wrote:"MG3 - worth $450 a month?" Not sure what the $ are but if the downpayment is $5m it's not a cheap car Wink
    That's just a translator mistake. 450$ per month with first deposit of 5.000$, not million :)Currency - US dollars.
    Still wrong, for the UK that should be written "$5,000" - we use ',' instead of '.', with a '.' it reads just "$5", it is the French that use ','.
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    Post by Mirtininkas Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:59 am

    noted Smile Are there any plans in UK with Xross?
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    Post by Windy Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:12 am

    Mirtininkas wrote:Are there any plans in UK with Xross?
    I think the last answer to that question was that they want to see how well the MG3 sells first.

    The Streetwise was quite popular though so I think they should, a lot of people prefer to sit a bit higher, especially the elderly who have difficulty getting out of a low seat.
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    Post by patpending Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:24 am

    Windy wrote:
    Mirtininkas wrote:Are there any plans in UK with Xross?
    I think the last answer to that question was that they want to see how well the MG3 sells first.

    The Streetwise was quite popular though so I think they should, a lot of people prefer to sit a bit higher, especially the elderly who have difficulty getting out of a low seat.
    Agreed, of three definite MG3 sales this week, two are to more mature ladies... a huge market for people with the money who like a bit of style, low running costs, and value for money...
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    Post by snifferdog1 Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:50 am

    Any idea how well MG have been selling in Belarus?! I havent seen any sales figures.

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