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2013 Shanghai Auto Show is the most anticipated MPV concept car - the SAIC Maxus concept MPV
The annual International Motor Show has always been eager to debut on the stage of concept car. Concept car with previous years almost exclusively belong to different passenger cars, business use MPV segment in a long time without a new car on the forthcoming opening of the Shanghai Auto Show this year will usher in a heavyweight concept car - SAIC Maxus concept MPV. SAIC's self-owned international brands, Maxus this time to bring the Group's global technical force heavy build commercial vehicle industry's first concept car MPV will be green, efficient, science and technology "as a concept for the industry forward-looking change.
From the thousands of people side of the van to a few paragraphs commercial vehicles, more than business travel car sector has been relatively quiet. For this reason, SAIC the Chase concept of MPV's about to debut worth the wait. Car comprehensive industry-leading level for 10 years, will be the efficient use of energy, the environment and health friendly, as well as to meet the customers a full range of business needs to lead the industry direction, so that consumers are able to enjoy in the near future the times into good products.
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Does any Maxus design work take place at Longbridge or is it a totally separate business? It would be nice to think of it all coming slowly back together at some point!
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Maxus, MG and Roewe are the 3 active brands that belong 100% to SAIC. Maxus is part of a separate commercial vehicle subsidiary from MG and Roewe but design work for the three is carried out by the SAIC Motor Technical Centre SMTC which is another separate subsidiary. I assume that SMTC and it's boss Tony Williams are responsible for this vehicle although the sketches above do have the label "Torino Design" which is an Anglo-Italian company. SMTC do work at Longbridge and in China. The V80 has certainly had work done on it in the UK, it went to MIRA for the School Bus roll over testing.Morris Motors wrote:Does any Maxus design work take place at Longbridge or is it a totally separate business? It would be nice to think of it all coming slowly back together at some point!
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I was looking at the SMTC website yesterday - very good it is too - but there was no mention of Maxus on there so I wondered if commercial vehicles were a wholly different thing.
What about SSanyong - isn't that 100% SAIC?
What about SSanyong - isn't that 100% SAIC?
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Maxus is known as "LDV" in some markets IIRC. Don't know if that makes a difference.Morris Motors wrote:I was looking at the SMTC website yesterday - very good it is too - but there was no mention of Maxus on there so I wondered if commercial vehicles were a wholly different thing.
What about SSanyong - isn't that 100% SAIC?
SAIC sold troublesome Ssangyong but [EDIT I believe] they still own the relevant IP...
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SsangYong is nothing to do with SAIC these days, they have Indian owners now but I think they do all their work in S. Korea.Morris Motors wrote:I was looking at the SMTC website yesterday - very good it is too - but there was no mention of Maxus on there so I wondered if commercial vehicles were a wholly different thing.
What about SSanyong - isn't that 100% SAIC?
The commercial side does have different managers so is somewhat independent and is based in Wuxi near Nanjing so again somewhat independent but they are the same group and will share facilities. At the show they will be with SAIC's other commercial vehicles not on the Roewe/MG stand but they do sell their UK heritage, very useful when selling school busses as safety of the children is very important in China - UK design will help sales.
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Thanks - didn't know they'd sold Ssanyong. Pass the parcel...
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The S. Korean unions more or less killed it after many months of strikes and riot police and SAIC gave up on them and refused to invest any more. The S. Korean government saved it from bankruptcy and sold/gave it to the Indians who did promise to invest.Morris Motors wrote:Thanks - didn't know they'd sold Ssanyong. Pass the parcel...
We don't know what SsangYong IP SAIC owns or has access to but I suspect they kept rights to use what they paid for.
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http://www.mguk.org/t134-ssangyong-saic-management-replaced-by-riot-policeBy late afternoon, the situation was in a lull and the strikers had ceased firing at police, the police official said. Police had earlier closed in on the paint shop but did not enter it. Union spokesman Lee Chang-kun said a police assault on the paint shop would be deadly. “We will respond to it, bracing ourselves for death.”
Almost 100 people have been injured this week at the plant in Pyeongtaek, 70 km (43 miles) south of Seoul. Strikers have battled riot police with giant catapults, firebombs and steel pipes while police fought back with tear gas.
In dramatic scenes Wednesday, police commandos rappelled from helicopters onto the roof of the paint shop, the last building still held by the strikers.
Other officers inside three containers lifted by giant cranes landed on a nearby roof Wednesday while two helicopters dropped liquefied tear gas on protesters.
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Makes Red Robbo look tame...
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Source: http://www.chewen.com/journal/201304/254424.htmlShanghai Auto Show world debut SAIC Maxus G10 will be published
Asked us recently was informed that SAIC will Maxus in 2013, Shanghai Auto Show world debut of a new concept of MPV--G10, we have for the first time the car part of the notice.
"Maxus the G10 silhouette exposure"
It is learnt that the G10 concept positioned at the high-end MPV, focused on creating "mobile commerce platform" concept, equipped with a vehicle-mounted Mobile Internet, fully meet the consumers demand mobile office. In addition, new gasoline and diesel engines will be powered by the G10, with new diesel engine can meet Euro 5 emissions standards, after upgrading to meet the Euro 6 emissions.
"Maxus the G10 hand drawing"
"Maxus the G10 hand drawing"
"Maxus the G10 taillight designs"
"Maxus G10 Interior renderings"
Currently, high-end business basic were dominated by Buick GL8 MPV market, Maxus G10 launched, apparently saw the huge potential of this market. Maxus hopes to use its edge in commercial vehicle platform, into the high-end business MPV market, the G10 is without doubt one of the most important pieces.
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Looks really good to me, business travel with style
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yes, I used to travel to and from Frankfurt airport every week in minibuses like this but they didn't look as good. They have to be tough to cover a thousand miles every week - the Renaults were not as good as the Mercs...Windy wrote:
Looks really good to me, business travel with style
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http://www.carnewschina.com/2013/06/25/spy-shots-shanghai-maxus-g10-mpv-testing-in-china/
Spy Shots: Shanghai-Maxus G10 MPV testing in China
Published on June 25, 2013 by Tycho de Feyter
Spy shots showing the production version of the new Shanghai-Maxus G10 MPV testing in China. The Maxus G10 debuted as a concept on the Shanghai Auto Show in April. The Maxus G10 is based on the Buick GL8 MPV that is made in China by the Shanghai-GM joint venture.
The Maxus G10 concept at the Shanghai Auto Show. The production version will be available with three engines: 2.0 turbo and 3.0 V6 from GM, and a VM Motori 2.5 liter turbodiesel. Price will start around 240.000 yuan.
The Buick GL8 is available with a 2.4 liter four-cylinder and the same 3.0 V6, price ranges from 288.000 yuan to 388.000 yuan. The GL8 is the second rebadged Buick for SAIC, the first was the Roewe 950 based on the Buick Lacrosse.
Spy Shots: Shanghai-Maxus G10 MPV testing in China
Published on June 25, 2013 by Tycho de Feyter
Spy shots showing the production version of the new Shanghai-Maxus G10 MPV testing in China. The Maxus G10 debuted as a concept on the Shanghai Auto Show in April. The Maxus G10 is based on the Buick GL8 MPV that is made in China by the Shanghai-GM joint venture.
The Maxus G10 concept at the Shanghai Auto Show. The production version will be available with three engines: 2.0 turbo and 3.0 V6 from GM, and a VM Motori 2.5 liter turbodiesel. Price will start around 240.000 yuan.
The Buick GL8 is available with a 2.4 liter four-cylinder and the same 3.0 V6, price ranges from 288.000 yuan to 388.000 yuan. The GL8 is the second rebadged Buick for SAIC, the first was the Roewe 950 based on the Buick Lacrosse.
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I'm unconvinced about that, apart from them looking substantially different I can't find any source that appears to have a link to the factory and the more reliable reports have omitted that bit of info so it may be just rumour.patpending wrote:The Maxus G10 is based on the Buick GL8 MPV
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Now it's been given a Mitsubishi engine, with nearly three times the power of the LDV school bus parked just down the road from here even though it's a smaller vehicle!
It may be a little over 2 tonnes in weight but isn't 225 bhp going to be a bit excessive for the passengers?
It may be a little over 2 tonnes in weight but isn't 225 bhp going to be a bit excessive for the passengers?
Source: http://auto.163.com/13/0703/11/92RTI4CI00084TUO.htmlMaxus G10 MPV 2.0L Mitsubishi engine SAIC Information Exposure
According to details and directory information inference, SAIC Maxus MPV seven models have different configurations of high and low, are equipped with 2.0L engine, maximum power of 165 kilowatts, a top speed of 190 km / h, while Mitsubishi series engine depends on energy-efficient technologies, The weight of more than two tons, with a wheelbase of 3.1 meters MPV 100 km combined fuel consumption of only 10.3 liters.
July 3 found in the SAIC Maxus MPV models of unfeigned declare figure, combined with the previous concept car models on which SAIC Maxus G10 and camouflage according to reports and related information can be speculated that SAIC Maxus MPV production model is expected to be officially released during the year.
Information points: 1. Equipped with Mitsubishi 2.0L engine 2. Combined fuel consumption of 10.3L/100km
SAIC MPV Maxus
SAIC Maxus MPV model parameters
Length / width / height (mm)
5168/1980/1928
Wheelbase (mm)
3210
Front / rear track (mm)
1680/1660
Approach / departure angle (°)
19/18
The total mass (kg)
About 2800
Curb weight (kg)
About 2150
Tire Size
215/70R16
SAIC MPV concept car Maxus G10 Shanghai Auto Show in April this year released a production model in June according to camouflage exposure, released in July, the first batch of 249 cars directory formal declaration. Car directory display, SAIC Maxus MPV's exterior dimensions 5168/1980/1928mm, wheelbase 3120mm, its design and location and Buick GL8 inextricably linked.
SAIC MPV Maxus
SAIC Maxus MPV dynamic parameters
Engine Model
20L4E
Manufacturer
Shanghai Automotive Group Co., Ltd.
Type of fuel
Gasoline-powered
Displacement (ml)
1995
Maximum power (kw)
160
Top speed (km / h)
190
Combined fuel consumption (L/100km)
10.3
Inside, SAIC Maxus MPV targeted at luxury business style, with models with LCD screen, using the integrated gear arrangement, metallic knobs and buttons and other details can be inferred exposure spy photos of the models are high-profile release.
From Buick GL8 MPV platform SAIC Maxus Spy Shots
SAIC Maxus MPV interior spy photos
According to details and directory information inference, SAIC Maxus MPV seven models have different configurations of high and low, is divided into seven editions and 9 versions are equipped with 2.0L engine.
Low-equipped models may choose different colors and body door handles, bumpers, mirrors, etc., with models is the use of integrated appearance, xenon headlights, dual sunroof, alloy wheels and more chrome trim.
SAIC Maxus MPV details
SAIC Maxus MPV equipped with a majority of own-brand models selected Mitsubishi 4G series engine, the displacement of 1995cc, maximum power of 165 kilowatts, a top speed of 190 km / h, while Mitsubishi series engine depends on energy-efficient technology, this weight over two t, wheelbase 3.1 m of MPV 100 km fuel consumption of only 10.3 liters.
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Looks rather watered down from the blue motor show example, especially the frontal treatment and wheels etc. It did look quite striking. Now it looks like, um, a van.
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Maybe because it is a van!Morris Motors wrote:Now it looks like, um, a van.
But the executive model with the 18" alloy wheels is going to look rather smart...
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Hmmmm...
So will this replace the existing Maxus?
So will this replace the existing Maxus?
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No, the V80 is much bigger,Morris Motors wrote:Hmmmm...
So will this replace the existing Maxus?
Length 5700 (4950mm for short wheelbase)
Width 1998
Height 2345.
Gross Laden Mass 3490
Licencing Mass, 2400.
instead of
Length 5168
width 1980
height 1928
The total mass (kg) About 2800
Curb weight (kg) About 2150
well, maybe not "much" bigger but still bigger, guess the main difference is that the V80 is a load carrier (which may consist of people) while the G10 is a people carrier and probably doesn't have the structure for a pile of cement bags or whatever.
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It seems that there is a choice of 4 engines, three of them being Mitsubishi sourced.Windy wrote:Now it's been given a Mitsubishi engine...
The 4th engine appears to be the first use of the Longbridge developed 2L NLE engine which will be fitted to MGs and Roewes in future. There appear to be two versions of it (doesn't that make five engine choices?), a 2L NASP and the 2L Turbo producing 225 bhp - that should make for a good 120mph school minibus
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