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Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:42 am

For 2012 we have a new graph, which hopefully will fit on Pat's screen! It has a new trend line for the total which should make it easier to tell which direction sales are really going, it's a 12 month rolling average, seems to have been very flat for the last year!

Note that this year January contained the Chinese new year holiday which is normally mainly in February and tends to reduce sales for all manufacturers; this and the fact that December sales were unusually high are the main reasons why all models are down this month.

Model - China Sales (Rank)
-----------------------------
Roewe 350 - 4,746 (58)
Roewe 550 - 2,429 (97)
Roewe W5 - 0,317 (31)
Roewe 750 - 0,197 (174)

MG 3 - 1,961 (107)
MG 6 - 1,300 (131)
MG 7 - 0,051 (192)
-----------------------------

China - 10,684 (22)
UK - 107
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by patpending Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:31 am

Fits the screen. afro

afro

flower

elephant

lol!

Don't know about "disastrous" - previous lower month was only July 2011!

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:08 am

patpending wrote:Don't know about "disastrous" - previous lower month was only July 2011!

"disastrous" - whatever gave you the idea that they may be that scratch

scratch

Trendline appears to be rising into the future, if only very slightly! alien

alien

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by patpending Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:41 pm

Windy wrote:

patpending wrote:Don't know about "disastrous" - previous lower month was only July 2011!

"disastrous" - whatever gave you the idea that they may be that

reading scurrilous postings in other places!

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:57 am

patpending wrote:

Windy wrote:

patpending wrote:Don't know about "disastrous" - previous lower month was only July 2011!

"disastrous" - whatever gave you the idea that they may be that

reading scurrilous postings in other places!

You mean that being able to see all the figures instead of carefully selected statistics tells a completely different story! Idea

Idea

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by patpending Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:11 am

Windy wrote:You mean that being able to see all the figures instead of carefully selected statistics tells a completely different story!

yes and I was just waiting for you to update your graph! lol!

lol!

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:36 am

February Sales

Model - China Sales (Rank)
-----------------------------
Roewe 350 - 5,030 (57)
Roewe 550 - 3,324 (80)
Roewe W5 - 0,334 (33)
Roewe 750 - 0,088 (191)

MG 3 - 2,201 (100)
MG 6 - 1,602 (119)
MG 7 - 0,025 (200)
-----------------------------

China - 12,270 (20)
UK - 103
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by Windy Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:38 am

SAIC own brand expand to break the 200,000 sales this year

Friday in the PRC, Jiang Jun, deputy general manager of SAIC Passenger Vehicle Company, MG5 conference revealed that this year, SAIC own car brand to achieve a 25 percent increment this year Roewe and MG brands sales To break through the 200 000.

Because the entire own brand development of the market downturn in 2011, SAIC passenger cars suffered dismal last year, the Shanghai Automotive own car brand sold only 162,000, an increase of only 1%. Jiang Jun, said this year is a bumper year SAIC passenger cars, the specific performance of the vehicle models on the market, especially the Roewe brand will usher in the launch of the second-generation models, the new Roewe Roewe R95 models market in April.

Source: http://finance.qq.com/a/20120315/000722.htm

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:17 am

March Sales

The launch of the MG5 at the Beijing Auto Show is due this month, however it still managed to sell in the hundreds last month! It went on sale very late in the month so we still have to wait until next month to see how popular it is. The only vehicle seing a drop in sales is the W5 despite a lot of advertising for it.

Model - China Sales (Rank)
-----------------------------
Roewe 350 - 6,193 (54)
Roewe 550 - 3,732 (84)
Roewe W5 - 0,264 (39)
Roewe 750 - 0,130 (190)

MG 3 - 2,960 (94)
MG 5 - 0,748 (155)
MG 6 - 1,958 (118)
MG 7 - 0,045 (201)
-----------------------------

China - 15,766 (19)
UK - 236
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Edit: Just to clarify, the Roewe W5 is an SUV and it's rank figure gives it's position within the sales figures of SUVs in China, the rest of the rank figures are their positions within the sales figures of automobiles in China.

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Fri May 11, 2012 5:13 pm

April Sales

Shanghai Automotive up into 16th place and the MG3 from 94th up into 82nd!

I guess production of the MG5 is still ramping up.

Model - China Sales (Rank)
-----------------------------
Roewe 350 - 5,945 (50)
Roewe 550 - 3,649 (80)
Roewe W5 - 0,265 (40)
Roewe 750 - 0,132 (196)

MG 3 - 3,621 (82)
MG 5 - 1,344 (140)
MG 6 - 2,011 (116)
MG 7 - 0,034 (204)
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China - 16,736 (16)
UK - 16
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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by patpending Sat May 12, 2012 1:33 am

Windy wrote:Shanghai Automotive up into 16th place and the MG3 from 94th up into 82nd!

That's a good result - they have generally been at about 19th.

I remember the one time a Rover Group product was in the German Top 55 - it was the wedge 200/400 in 1995. It was a pretty unusual car, but you saw them around in Munich (BMW workers' discount scheme). The 350 has just hit that kind of sales area and has long since supplanted the previous SAIC Automotive no.1, the 550.

When we are considering how SAIC is placed in the luxury market, we think about the Roewe 750 - but although the MG7 has pretty low sales, the 750 cannot compare well either for sales against say a Mercedes C Class.

And I am guessing that Avis have now had their 500 cars. 16 sales in April in the UK compares to earlier months' 3 or 7, but there is still an awfully long way to go.

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Sat May 12, 2012 6:51 am

patpending wrote:That's a good result - they have generally been at about 19th.

I'm not sure why this success, it's more a relative increase than an actual increase in sales so maybe something affected the others more than Shanghai Auto this month. It's not a trend yet.

patpending wrote:I remember the one time a Rover Group product was in the German Top 55 - it was the wedge 200/400 in 1995. It was a pretty unusual car, but you saw them around in Munich (BMW workers' discount scheme).

A good car, I had one, but an odd car for a BMW worker as it had no BMW content. They do like their New Minis though.

patpending wrote:The 350 has just hit that kind of sales area and has long since supplanted the previous SAIC Automotive no.1, the 550.

One thing that is now noticable from the graph is that the 350 overtook the 550 when the new generation MG3 production started at the Roewe 550 factory. The Lingang factory output has remained remarkably constant for the last two years as has the Nanjing Pukou factory output! Probably good for profits even if it doesn't match the stated targets?

patpending wrote:When we are considering how SAIC is placed in the luxury market, we think about the Roewe 750 - but although the MG7 has pretty low sales, the 750 cannot compare well either for sales against say a Mercedes C Class.

Not good figures for either, something I've never understood, it will be interesting to see if the 950 does significantly better even though it is an even bigger car. Not sure if we will see 950 sales next month or not, the media are doing test drives so it wont be long.

patpending wrote:And I am guessing that Avis have now had their 500 cars. 16 sales in April in the UK compares to earlier months' 3 or 7, but there is still an awfully long way to go.

Yes, they seem to have had 500. It will be interesting to see if they have another 500 this year, as long as it hasn't caused any problems then presumably they will. I think the MG6 is the wrong car for my local dealer, the MG3 would probably be far better for them or alternatively they need to move from a town occupied almost exclusively by pensioners into the city.

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by patpending Sat May 12, 2012 11:30 am

Windy wrote:I think the MG6 is the wrong car for my local dealer, the MG3 would probably be far better for them or alternatively they need to move from a town occupied almost exclusively by pensioners into the city.

yes, the MG3 would be the car to get things going again.

As for "urban sales" there are no dealers in S London or Surrey - millions of potential customers without a dealer!

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:58 am

May Sales

Shanghai Automotive back into 19th place but 56% up on May last year.

The Roewe 950 has appeared for the first time beating the 750 and MG7, I don't think it was on sale for the full month though, we will see it's true sales next month.

I've also added a trend line to the UK sales total to match the China sales total, both trends showing a definite rise so sales are looking a lot more positive than last year.

Model - China Sales (Rank)
-----------------------------
Roewe 350 - 5,773 (47)
Roewe 550 - 3,005 (97)
Roewe 750 - 0,190 (186)
Roewe 950 - 0,315 (180)
Roewe W5 - 0,352 (40)

MG 3 - 3,826 (73)
MG 5 - 1,200 (144)
MG 6 - 1,407 (137)
MG 7 - 0,030 (204)
-----------------------------

China total - 15,746 (19)
UK total - 49
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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by patpending Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:46 am

Windy wrote:The Roewe 950 has appeared for the first time beating the 750 and MG7, I don't think it was on sale for the full month though, we will see it's true sales next month.

yes, 950 beats 750 AND MG7 together. The MG7 is selling less in China than the MG6 in the UK! That's the kind of story we would have been looking at a couple of years ago if MGR had not closed...

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:29 am

June Sales

Shanghai Automotive back into 16th place and it looks like a definite step up in sales has been achieved.

Not sure what has happened to the MG5, I think I saw that there where only black ones available!

The Roewe 950 has exceeded my expectations!

And the UK sales Sad

Sad

Model - China Sales (Rank)
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Roewe 350 - 5,436 (48)
Roewe 550 - 3,137 (87)
Roewe 750 - 0,191 (188)
Roewe 950 - 1,627 (125)
Roewe W5 - 0,719 (34)

MG 3 - 3,820 (77)
MG 5 - 0,893 (150)
MG 6 - 1,768 (120)
MG 7 - 0,025 (205)
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China total - 16,897 (16)
UK total - 19
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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:08 am

July Sales

Back into 19th place. There doesn't seem to have been much marketing going on, even during the olympics and I note that the number of cars produced at 14K is lower than the number they sold last month or the month before, although higher than this month so I wonder if they ran short of cars confused

confused

Model - China Sales (Rank)
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Roewe 350 - 3,269 (73)
Roewe 550 - 2,124 (96)
Roewe 750 - 0,147 (185)
Roewe 950 - 0,746 (151)
Roewe W5 - 0,570 (33)

MG 3 - 2,595 (85)
MG 5 - 0,522 (163)
MG 6 - 1,140 (135)
MG 7 - 0,017 (207)
-----------------------------

China total - 10,560 (19)
UK total - 23
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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by littlechicken Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:34 am

MG 5 sales do appear disappointing

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:42 am

littlechicken wrote:MG 5 sales do appear disappointing

Most disapointing is how much the MG5 sales have dropped since the launch. It's not clear to me why, especially when the 350 is the best seller by a long way. It is possible there are still supply problems, or maybe it's just the lack of a boot!

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:06 am

August Sales

The marketing seems to have restarted fairly heavily so I expect sales to be well up in next months figures, however I don't understand Augusts figures!

Sales of the Roewe 350 are up 58% from last month!
Sales of the Roewe 750 are up by over 80% from last month!
Sales of the MG5 and MG3 are up around 46%.
The MG7 has not done so well, it's matching UK total sales!

This moves Shanghai Auto from 19th down into 15th place in the manufacturers table, the best placing ever.

Model - China Sales (Rank)
-----------------------------
Roewe 350 - 5,165 (49)
Roewe 550 - 2,847 (89)
Roewe 750 - 0,265 (176)
Roewe 950 - 0,530 (164)
Roewe W5 - 0,562 (37)

MG 3 - 3,213 ( 78)
MG 5 - 0,769 (156)
MG 6 - 1,649 (122)
MG 7 - 0,007 (212)
-----------------------------

China total - 14,445 (15)
UK total - 6
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by patpending Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:45 am

Even keeping space for the MG7 in the showrooms can hardly be profitable now. In the UK, we look for a
big expansion of the model range and diesels. What's the plan with the MG7?

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by Windy Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:32 am

patpending wrote:Even keeping space for the MG7 in the showrooms can hardly be profitable now. In the UK, we look for a
big expansion of the model range and diesels. What's the plan with the MG7?

Yes, looking at the graph it is a steady line downwards to nothing in the next few months, it is time to replace it.

Rumours used to be that it would be replaced at the same time as the 750 and sharing the same platform but we have heard nothing since the 950 turned out to have the new platform. I half expect to see a prototype for the 7 or 750 at the Guangzhou show at the end of the year.

(Model rankings for August have now arrived and are added above.)

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by Windy Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:18 pm

September Sales

The increased marketing seems to have worked - September saw the second highest sales ever.

Both Chinese and UK sales are above the average lines, bit surprising considering the UK average includes a lot of Avis sales.

Model - China Sales (Rank)
-----------------------------
Roewe 350 - 6,984 (41)
Roewe 550 - 3,321 (89)
Roewe 750 - 0,194 (188)
Roewe 950 - 0,389 (173)
Roewe W5 - 0,762 (35)

MG 3 - 4,359 ( 70)
MG 5 - 0,952 (153)
MG 6 - 2,071 (117)
MG 7 - 0,008 (217)
-----------------------------

China total - 18,287 (14)
UK total - 72
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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Mirtininkas Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:21 am

Why your China Total is always false? On every month? For example 18.278 cars, if summarize all cars i get 19.413 cars.

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by Windy Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:23 am

Mirtininkas wrote:Why your China Total is always false? On every month? For example 18.278 cars, if summarize all cars i get 19.413 cars.

The China Total is the total number of MG + Roewe cars sold.

The Roewe W5 is not a car, it is an SUV and appears in different tables and a different total. For the same reason the Roewe W5 has a rank of 35 which is the rank within SUVs, not its rank in the cars. It is not in the China total but is in the total on the graph, which also includes the UK cars but not the other 35+ countries around the world.

So I think the total for China is 19,040. I do not know how you get 19,413 scratch

scratch

But we have only counted the MG and Roewe, I have no figures for the vans from Maxus/LDV or the trucks from Yuejin.

I hope that makes sense?

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Re: Sales Figures 2012

by Windy Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:04 pm

October Sales

Strange, the 350 is up by miles and the MG3 down by miles, and 13th place for Shanghai Auto Shocked

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Model - China Sales (Rank)
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Roewe 350 - 8,151 (31)
Roewe 550 - 2,727 (97)
Roewe 750 - 0,122 (194)
Roewe 950 - 0,475 (167)
Roewe W5 - 0,829 (32)

MG 3 - 2,704 ( 98)
MG 5 - 0,952 (143)
MG 6 - 2,046 (113)
MG 7 - 0,010 (215)
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China total - 17,187 (13)
UK total - 37
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by Windy Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:37 am

November Sales

The 350 is up by miles again, the MG3 is well up, the W5 is over 1000 for the first time and the MG5 looks like they are making a small fixed number each month while trying to keep up with the 350 orders. Prices are going up due to the record monthly sales.

Model - China Sales (Rank)
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Roewe 350 - 9,429 (35)
Roewe 550 - 3,339 (94)
Roewe 750 - 0,132 (191)
Roewe 950 - 0,407 (175)
Roewe W5 - 1,289 (29)

MG 3 - 4,169 ( 81)
MG 5 - 0,967 (153)
MG 6 - 1,922 (124)
MG 7 - 0,019 (214)
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China total - 20,384 (15)
UK total - 21
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Now at 175,905 for 2012, up from 163,864 in total for last year

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by patpending Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:45 am

best-ever month for SAIC Motor?

I see that MG3 is No.2 model but that it has sold less than half Roewe 350's amount. And MG7 has edged up to 19 but is still very poor - dare I say "even less than MG6 in the UK". Is MG7 still in production?

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by Windy Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:02 pm

patpending wrote:best-ever month for SAIC Motor?

Yes, and sales have been well above the trendline for all but two of the last 12 months which is very different to last year. (don't forget that the vertical scale is logarithmic base 8 )

The 350 is a family car which is what most Chinese people buy (See that article you posted a link to), the MG3 is a little small for an extended family and more of an individuals car, I think the difference in numbers is to be expected. The 550 should probably be keeping up with the 350 though, maybe it is a little big?

As far as I know they can still make MG7s, but the style is not fashionable at the moment!

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by Windy Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:11 am

I see that Novembers sales for China + UK exceeded MG-Rovers 2005 total worldwide sales for January + February + March - all added together. They went into administration at the begining of April 2005.

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